Staff Seargent,
The .223 will do the job on any animal with perfect shot placement, and the .223 has taken many deer.
That said if you are comfortable and confident with the AR/M16/M4 platform and are interested in using it for hunting I would look at one of the many .308 cal. ARs available.
Armalite and DPMS both make great .308 ARs and DPMS even makes a .308 M4 clone.
Its like firing a 240 Bravo round from the M4 you are familiar and comfrortable with.
That would be my recommendation for a great carbine for deer or anything else you need to put you reticle on.
Hope this helps.Is deer hunting with a .223 possible?
It is possible; it is also possible to hunt deer with a BB gun or slingshot. Depends on whether or not you really want to get one to put in the freezer. The odds in your favor will be greatly enhanced if you used a thirty caliber rifle as it has much more adequate stopping power for game animals. We are all different and have different preferences and yada so just do whatever and enjoy your hunt.
in most areas it is illegal
in texas where the deer are generally smaller, it is somewhat common to hunt them with a 223
For expert hunters who are superb marksmen, great stalkers, wonderful trackers, and who have shot more than 20 deer in their lifetime, using a 223 is probably acceptable, but for most folks, they don't have the skills to pull it off.
What's worse carbine length barrel really reduces the somewhat marginal effects of the 223. Remember, the idea is to get a clean humane kill, not fight a war
One thing to consider is the AR-10, the AR-15's big brother, you can get that in much more potent cartridges like the 243 or the 308, and the controls and maintenance will all be the same. Hence you will keep your familiarity with the weapon family and have somethign more appropriate to hunting.
Either way, you will probably need to get some 5 shot magazines
People use it, and it is legal in a few states. I'd strongly urge you not to do so. While a broadside shot that doesn't hit shoulder will probably penetrate, there are simply too many things that can go wrong and result in a wound that allows the loss of the deer. Even an 80 grain bullet will have a sectional density of only .228. Look for something with a caliber of at least .257 and a good expanding bullet designed for expansion on deer, with a sectional density of .24 or better if you want to use a miniature. Better still, avoid miniatures altogether and get a nice small-bore of .264 to .311 caliber and a bullet (again with the proper design for expansion) with a sectional density of around .26 for best results.
like you said, check for yourself to make sure it's legal.
I have had friends hunt with them, and for shorter ranges, where you can comfortably make head shots, a .223 is ok. I'd feel somewhat comfortable on an average doe (120lbs) with this caliber in a good, expanding bullet. I would not attempt to take a larger buck (170lbs and up) with this, though, unless I felt comfortable with a head shot.
In short, it can be done, but you will have to pick your shot very carefully, and I'd keep it at 100yds or less. Also, be prepared to do a little tracking in some cases.
My friend's 12 year-old daughter has killed 3 with the rifle (uses for recoil considerations since she is a little person). The big considerations are that it will lose stopping power sooner, but if you are good enough to keep it to 150 yards or so you still have a very good chance of a humane kill.
You will want to see if your rifle feeds hollow points, although most deer are killed with the first round anyway. You'll want to go with a heavier bullet if the rifling in your barrel is fast enough to stabilize it.
Had enough of the fat little green men on the range Sarge???
Is it possible to kill a deer with a .223?
Yes, it's possible.
Is it a good idea to hunt deer with a .223?
No, not really, when there's a plethora of calibers that are far better suited for a clean, ethical, humane kill, instead of the very real risk of wounding the deer with a .223
Whether it's legal or not in your area to hunt deer with a .223, it's still a marginal round for deer sized game.
You can get a .243 upper for your AR, and the .243 with the right ammo is a superb deer caliber!
The .223 will have sufficient power to kill a deer when the shot is properly placed. The problem is that if you are off target, you could well end up only wounding the deer. Mmost places with which I am familliar will not allow anyone to hun t with a calliber as small as .22. Most places specify a caliber of .25 or larger. Before you go afield with a .223 to hunt deer, be sure it is legal in your area. Game laws have more teeth in them than other laws. You may get off with a light sentence if you rob, rape or kill someone but you do not get off if you break a game law. Those folks are as serious as a heart attack.
deer hunting with 223 is passable but not so good. the rife 223 is to fast and the animal is walking Dede,
is very possible to hit the deer in the hard and the deer will continue to walk for 200 hundred years,i personal dislike this gun for deer hunting.it happens to me ,best is 35 with 200 grains bullet. best for the animal
Yes, if you cannot put your shot through the heart-lung area with the .223 then a you have no business shooting at a deer with any gun ---people! People kill them with arrows every single year. Now tell me how humane is that with the accuracy of most of those shots. I killed 2 with a bow and gave it up. I cannot stand to torture any animal.
Use a soft point bullet in 50 to 55 grains and shoot the deer right behind the front shoulder. (arm pit) Pass up poor shots because a bigger better deer will be along sooner or later. If you shoot and it runs like its been scalded and you know where the cross hairs were then follow it. It will be lying within 100 yards dead. If you want it to fall in its tracks but thrash around in agony shoot it right under the chin or in the eye. (I do not like this shot)
I have taken over 30 with a Remmington 600 in .222 with 50 grain soft point bullets.
The deer I saw run the furthest and suffer the most was shot with a 7mm Remmington Magnum a bit back and through the liver and stomach.
shot placement is every thing you can use a 22 if you put it in the right place. an A-R is easy to shoot that's why its issued to the military,I would use a 308 for deer, the last thing you want is to wound a deer, it comes in A-R style rifle if your comfortable shooting that style of rifle.It will have the knock down power and barely kicks .Personally I use 233 for gophers maybe coyote.
I have a Rossi .223 single shot and i have shot and killed three deer with it. All between 100-200 yards. The only complaint that i have is that it does not have the knock down power as higher caliber rifles. If you get a good shot it will wound them, they might run, but it will kill them. You might have to track them up to 50 yards or more but, you can kill a deer with a .223.
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Please look there for people who know what they are talking about and photgraphic evidence of all the deer taken with AR15's. Heck the .22 magnum is favored by poachers for taking deer so don't you think a .223 with a bigger bullet and faster velocities will put one down. I have personally seen the wound channel in deer from the .223 remington and it is devastating with the right bullet choice.
Although the M4 would not be my choice for hunting because of the significantly lower velocity you get from the 16'; barrel. I would go with a 20 inch barrel which will kep the velocity of the bullet over 2700 FPS for a longer range which is a sure fragmentation velocity upon impact.
I think you got the idea! .223 is a great varmint round. It works for coyotes, prarie dogs, fox, things like that. It will take down a deer, but it is just not the ideal round. 30-30, 22-250, 30-06, .243, .270, 7mm, 300, 308 are all great for the game animals. For the people saying that you can drop a deer with a well placed .22lr round, They are absolutley right, but that will land you in some trouble. Hunting deer with a rimfire, be it .17 or 22 is illegal in almost every state.
obviously yes this is a no brainer
if you would have asked could you hunt deer with rocks i will say yes too. why do people doubt guns ... shot placement at reasonable ranges is the key. shot placement!!!!!!!!!!
ive SEEN whitetail downed in one shot at 50 ft with a .22 lr to the head (it was a legal shot with a state approved firearm)
let me say again SHOT PLACEMENT AT REASONABLE DISTANCES!!!!!!!!!
it sounds that you need reassurance. of course you can and youll be fine, just take your time and shoot like you got all the time in the world punching holes in paper. youll do good and make sure you take some pictures after you get one. good luck
Staff, If you are comfortable the the M4, Rock River, Bushmaster and DPMS. All make an M4 style 308 rifles. This would serve you better as for sure one shot bring down gun. But to address your question, Yes, with the right shot placement you can hunt deer with the M4/AR-15. You success may also depend on what part of the country you are hunting in. ''Size of deer''. In any case Good Luck.
Yes it will work just fine. My question is why do you need a high capacity magazine to hunt deer. If you can't hit it with one bullet you should try a different sport. I've always used the one shot one kill motto and I always only load one bullet and make that one bullet count. Doesn't do any good shooting 30 rounds at an animal you intend to eat. I personally do not enjoy eating around bullet fragments.
I have harvested Deer with my 218 Bee, 222, 22-250, without any problems at all.* Sometimes its not the caliber, but the shooter that matters most.* Stick to the heart %26amp; lung shot and you will be fine.* Your rifle is only going to be as effective as you are in delivering the kill shot.*
Yes, you can hunt and kill deer with them if you use soft point ammo. It is a legal round in the state I reside in. I use my AR-15 sometimes but prefer my SKS or AK in .30 cal. My wife's loser (poacher) ex-husband has been known to dispatch deer with .22 magnums and .17HMR both of which I'm sure you know are much less powerful rounds.
Edit: our regs say ';any center fire cartrige'; like Gen. Patton said. That means you could even use a .25acp if you wanted to.
Here's the deal- in most states, if not all of them, the 22 caliber is simply not legal for deer- You will have to go to the 25 caliber at least to be legal, but I can't speak with certainty for every state. There may be exceptions.
NO. In my opinion, it does not have enough mass to do the job humanly. I understand your reasoning, but an AR-10 in .308 is a better choice for you.
if you look in the hunting regs it'll probably say ';any center fire rifle';, that means it's good. but, i would use about a 75 grain bullet. my buddie took an elk with a 69 grain 223, it'll do the job.
A 223 will kill a deer easily. You have to be a good shot with what ever rifle you use. Try using ballistic tip bullets such as winchester supreme as they will drop an animal much better then a standard projectile.
Yeah, but you need to be a very good shot, otherwise it's just not humane. I would stick with AT LEAST a .243.....I usually use a .30-06.
possible with a head shot. it's the only way to make sure you don't wound it with that round.
only question is, if you're a good enough shot?
No the whole legality thing will prevent it besides it's really not quite big enough for deer.
You can. Better be a good shot.
You know that guy whom was on the youtube debates with his ar? Called it his baby? He's done it.
My cousin shot a spike horn with a .223 no problem.
It could work, a .22 rimfire could work if you were a good enough shot.
It will work, but I prefer a 30.06, or a .308, for deer sized animals.
yes, but youd better be a good shot, cause a .223 will go straight through a deer (its a NATO ';humane'; round) and its gonna run off, no stopping/knockdown power in a bullet that small...hit the lungs if you dont want to have to track it all day!
with that said, my buddy hunts with a .22-250, so yeah, it can be done, just not advisable for a new hunter.
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